Class Suggestion 501st Torrent and Carnivore buff

Oogie

Member
Moderator
Server Staff
Verified
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Reaction score
19
Points
8
[TOPIC]
Subclass buff

[DESCRIPTION]
Starting with Torrent, they are supposed to be our special forces along with Storm company. Currently, Storm has 425 HP while Torrent only having 135 HP, bringing Torrent up to their level of durability or at least 350 HP and some extra armour would make them more appealing towards people in the regiment.

On the other hand, we have Carnivore which only has 100 hp and no armour, the main issue with them is they just don't have any special kit compared to 332nd, giving them a durability buff to 175 HP + 100 Armor would make them a deadly foe on the frontline. Since they are CQB giving them shields would be excellent and useful in their special breaching situations. Since the removal of DU, the shields have just disappeared and you don't really see them being utilized in combat, adding them to 501st would make sense in frontline close combat.


[Extra]
This has been highly suggested and wanted in 501st for a while now, discord suggestions were removed and it got positive feedback there too. Currently, our 332nd and Storm is just overshadowing our other 2 classes which could be better with these changes.


[Edit]
Seems like Torrent is not gonna be more apealing any day soon so lets just scratch that.

Carnivore however could also use a minimal speed boost, talking 10-15% nothing major but very usefull in quick in and out clearings.
Think of this, Carnivores are the apex predators, they hunt and dismantle their preys, deadly warriors. They have to be quick and fast.
 
Last edited:

Schafer

The Creator
Forum Manager
Head Administrator
Server Staff
Gamemaster
Support Team
Staff Trainer
Verified
Joined
Mar 16, 2020
Reaction score
72
Points
28
To begin, no. Torrent Company is not Special Forces. They are specialized infantry support, there's a difference. Same with 212th Ghost Company, 327th K-Company and 41st Green Company. Torrent Company is in the spot it is meant to be in, no changes are needed.

+1 to the Carnivore buffs.
 
Last edited:

Comical

Member
Administrator
Server Staff
Verified
Joined
Mar 20, 2020
Reaction score
26
Points
18
So I agree with Schafer about the torrent changes, They are good enough and are not special forces. While the carnivore changes like the health make sense except for the shield, now I have little information about carnivore but it seems they were just another similar frontline company added to your battalion, and if they are to be CQB a shield is not the way to go, and I am not mad about another company getting a shield but my Centurion company works well with the shield because they have high armor to back it up since as a shield member you take a lot of blaster bolts either the toes, head or back of the head depending on the troopers behind you. The shield is also more of a support tool so if you wanted a shield I could understand if you weren't a frontline all the time shooting company and battalion, so I would say work on finding something else interesting a like a kit of close-range guns perhaps even grenades or those scanners that see enemies through walls and maybe even the breaching corner camera stick
 

Weaponized Autism

Newbie
Verified
Joined
Aug 2, 2020
Reaction score
6
Points
3
+1. I agree with the Carnivore health and armor buff, dont know if we will ever get a shield. Torrent one is kinda controversial but still in the 501st hierarchy Torrent is considered superior to 332nd yet the get more health than us and that overshadows my company as an attractive option for people inside the 501st (We are still inferior to Storm Company). A health increase would be appreciated since we don't get much.
 
Last edited:

Chat

Annoying Kid
Moderator
Server Staff
Donator
Verified
Joined
Mar 21, 2020
Reaction score
109
Points
43
+1 to carnivore buffs
 

Mallen

Member
Verified
Joined
Apr 10, 2020
Reaction score
11
Points
8
+1
dont give carnivore shields tho
unless they are the old shields
new shields are ass
I also agree with torrent being good as they are maybe a bit more hp but idk
 

Lath

Veteran
Moderator
Server Staff
Verified
Joined
Aug 2, 2020
Reaction score
30
Points
28
+1
to Carnivore
-1 to Torrent there not our special Forces
 

Bow

Veteran
Administrator
Server Staff
Support Team
Verified
Joined
Mar 20, 2020
Reaction score
106
Points
43
Since its already here, I'll add on to the carnivore section.
Carnivore battalion need a health increase and the addition of armor since they don’t get any. For the suggestion for the hp buff would be 195 hp for both Carnivore and Carnivore medic trooper, also 100 armor. For the Carnivore officer the hp suggestion is 210 hp and 100 armor. The reason for these health is that we classified Carnivore as CQC. With only 100 hp and no armor breaching into a building full of droid is a suicide because they will get 1 tap from a regular B1 droid.
This is a big maybe: Also maybe we can add flash bang to the Carnivore load-out to fit in that RP aspect when breaching into a door they will throw a flash and move in quick.
Instead of the 175 hp
 

Nixx

Veteran
Senior Moderator
Server Staff
Support Team
Verified
Joined
Sep 20, 2020
Reaction score
45
Points
28
what schafer said
 

justink0826

Newbie
Verified
Joined
Mar 31, 2020
Reaction score
3
Points
3
+1
Carnivore needs a buff. 100 health & no armor is god awful for any purpose, we get 1-3 shot by even the weakest of droids.


Torrent should have better stats than 332nd; Torrent has 135 hp and 100 armor ; 332nd has 150hp and 100 armor. It's on the same tier as Storm, which has 425 hp and 100 armor. Even though Storm is our elite subclass, Torrent should have stats that reflect it's subclass tier; It should have stats that're better for 4th tier, not weaker than those in tiers below it.

I recommend a Torrent buff to health that's at least equal to 332nd's current.​
 
Top